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Postby Detra319 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:06 am

So the td is allowed to take the cost of the players pack plus a profit out of the am entry fees?
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Re: payouts

Postby SARG27044 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:05 pm

Td's have always been able to get back any cost out of their pocket, out of entry fees...If that helps
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Postby diskey river » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:14 pm

I think technically a TD has to payout at least 85%, they can keep the rest if they choose
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Postby frogawitdafizzle » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 pm

We took out cost. If you think retail, we paid out 150%.. Adam I will refund his entry. I've always treated you very well . This is a bullhorn post from you.m
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Postby Detra319 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:47 pm

Pretty tame and just looking for an answer to a question. Im not pointing fingers or calling out names. Nothing against you at all frog. My bro is cool and not at all looking to cause problems for anyone either, nor would he want his entry back.

I am kind of more trying to see if the trend in disc golf tourneys is changing. I ran into this down in KC a couple weeks ago where there was a high emphasis on a good players pack. I totally understand the concept of trying to get something to everyone that enters. I personally dont play tournaments for players packs, but thats just me.

Again dude seriously not trying to make waves for anyone.
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Postby shane » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:38 am

From what I saw in Minnesota you can take out as much as you want not add anything and pass the td job offto someone else.
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Postby frogawitdafizzle » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:51 am

I don't want make waves? That just sounds like u have no balls.
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Postby Detra319 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:49 am

Frog read your two posts. U make no sense mr. U make it sound like u want me to call u out... u want me to say something along the lines of players packs are stupid and so are tds who charge for them? Cause that aint it. Until recently I assumed players pack were bonuses, not part of the entry. Now I know otherwise.
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Re: payouts

Postby GDL17921 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:13 pm

Adam,
A lot of TD'd do charge retail for the cost of the player's packs and have little to no payout - like GBO. At the Challenge, I cost it out so we're not making money on the player packs.

Basically, for that event, we have the cost of the discs and the shirts - everything else is donated. So, let's say the disc order is $2,000, and the shirts are $1,500. We have $3,500 in total cost. If we have 150 ams, each one pays about $24 ($3,500/150) for their player pack - out of their entry. So, if you're playing advanced, the entry fee is $65, take out $4 for PDGA, about $5/person for cost of player guides and trophies, you're looking at about a $32 net entry going towards payout. ($65 - 24 - 4 - 5 = $32)

Now, if there's am added cash, you have to allocate that among the divisions. Let's say there's $1500 added, and there's 80 adv, and 70 int to make it easy. That would be $800 to the adv, and $700 to int. Divide $800 by the 80 adv. players, you get $10/player, so you total net entry would be $42. ($32+10).

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Postby Swisher Streets » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:17 pm

shane wrote:From what I saw in Minnesota you can take out as much as you want not add anything and pass the td job offto someone else.
Was it ever explained what the cost breakdown was for the tournament and what fees shouldn't have been taken out that they did?
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Re: payouts

Postby Detra319 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:27 am

I don't want to go to a tournament where someone else picks out a shirt a hat and a disc for me and then charges me normal price for them. Players packs used to be bonuses, not presold profits for the companies running the tournaments. The kickback system that the pdga is putting into place sickens me. But hey, I still play tournaments, I just play rec now so I don't have to pay sanctioning fees. And its more suitable for my skill.
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Re: payouts

Postby cgkdisc » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:07 am

The retail value of player packs and merch CTPs for ams only have always been considered part of the payout for Ams but never for Pros in sanctioned PDGA events.
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Re: payouts

Postby Detra319 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:39 am

When I first started playing tournaments a couple 5 years or so back players back were bonuses, not presold merch that the td/vendor picked out. Paying out 110 dollars of a 450 dollar entry pool is a joke, if thats what those players packs allow the vendors to do.

Someone else picking out merch for me b4 I show up and then charging me full retail sounds like the worst idea ever. If that was a business it would fail. But since this is the pdga and people dont understand the system it continues to grow instead. Now at least I know what to look for. And this also seems like a system that will keep your not new to the game and not new to tournaments away unless they are a cashing pro. But maybe I am the only one who wants to win peoples entry money and I pay the pdga to hopefully lessen the amount of sandbaggers and provide a levelish field for me to compete against people of the same skill.
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Re: payouts

Postby Detra319 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:43 am

Its like not having losers in tball...wtf.
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Re: payouts

Postby D Fresh » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:45 pm

Detra319 wrote:Its like not having losers in tball...wtf.


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